Saturday, January 01, 2005

Christianity, American Style

In America, you're supposed to proclaim Christianity, but actually living by the words of Christ - that's right out.

Compare Luke 6:35:
But love ye your enemies, and do good, and lend, hoping for nothing again; and your reward shall be great, and ye shall be the children of the Highest: for he is kind unto the unthankful and to the evil -- Luke 6:35.

To the Westboro Baptist Church of Topeka Kansas:
How Many tsunami-dead Swedes are fags & dykes? vacationing on their fat expendable incomes without kids to bother with and spend money on? With respect to each of these earthquake-dead perverts: "He shall be buried with the burial of an ass." Jer. 22:19

Compare Many statements in Matthew:
Matthew 5:4 "Blessed are the merciful, For they shall obtain mercy."

Matthew 5:9 "Blessed are the peacemakers, For they shall be called sons of God."

Mathew 5:39: " But I say unto you, that ye resist not evil; but whoever shall smite thee on thy right check, turn to him the other cheek also."

Mathew 5: 44: " Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them that despitefully use you and curse you."

Mathew 6:14" "If ye forgive not men their trespasses, neither will your Father forgive your trespasses."

To Jerry Falwell on Wolf Blitzer:

If it takes 10 years, let's blow them all away in the name of the Lord.

Funny how the message of the popular so-called "Christians" stands in sharp contrast to the message of Christ, no?

In the current culture, using Christ's name while proclaiming the opposite of his message is rewarded with fame and power. But for those who try to live Christ's message of peace instead of death, things get a little rocky:
U.S. Marine Cpl. Joel D. Klimkewicz says he's willing to clear land mines [emphasis added] and risk his life for his country.

He's just not willing to pick up a gun.


"I couldn't see Jesus Christ taking human life," said Klimkewicz in a phone interview from the Camp LeJeune military prison. "In my faith, what I believe is that we're all citizens of heaven. Citizens of heaven are of all nations, and I refuse to take a life of a fellow citizen of heaven."

This month, a Marine Corps court sentenced 24-year-old Klimkewicz -- a combat engineer who is a member of a Seventh-day Adventist Church -- to seven months behind bars for refusing an order to pick up a weapon for training. He received a reduction in rank to private and a bad conduct discharge.

The Moral?
It's best to just call yourself a Christian. Acting like one could get you into trouble.

Luckily, not everyone who believes Christ's message of peace and love has been punished. ...Yet.
From Patrick M. Tighe:
The only way women and men move themselves to kill, I believe, is by first attempting to erase the image of themselves, and more importantly, the image of God, in the person whom they seek to kill. If they are successful in blinding themselves to the person’s real nature and status—that of a child of God, whom Christ is utterly present in—then killing becomes possible. I have a profound faith that Christ never asks us to deny His presence. Killing requires such a denial of God, through whose grace all good things come.
Christ gave Himself up to death instead of causing more death. In this giving up, He defeated death. I cannot, and will not, dishonor God by futilely trying to make His Son’s sacrifice meaningless. I will follow His path to life which leads away from killing. A Christian cannot bring death because Christ brought only life. I am a Christian before anything else. I, too, will bring only life. I shall not kill.


Anonymous Anonymous said...

Why in the world would someone join the marines if they would not pick up a gun.This guy is dishonest to say the least .He joined for a reason and he was well aware of what the marine corps involved. How idiotic of him . The truth is that he wanted somthing from them and he wasnt willing to fullfill his end of the bargain.

11:53 AM  
Blogger rhetoretician said...

Ironically, he was converted to Seventh-Day Adventist by his unit's chaplain.

So now his faith tells him he cannot take up arms against others. He is, however, willing to risk his life on the front lines clearing land mines, but apparently, that's not good enough.

12:18 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

He signed an agreement when he joined the military.Try reading it. Why do you want to allow this form of dishonesty yet you yell at the top of your lungs and call people liars when you imagine they are not telling the truth.By the way , use that small brain of yours and think. Do you really believe this guy suddenly found god and wont take up arms? or do you think he saw a way of getting out of actual fighting? Stop being nieve and join the real world.Dont tell me how he is willing to risk his life looking for land mines. He knows full well once he refused to take up arms as ordered he would cease to be a marine.You are given a rule book and this is outlined quite clearly.Ofcourse this is somthing someone like you wouldnt know.We in the Fact based real world are not fooled by these con artists. Try thinking for yourself and dont just latch on to things which help your cause. thats how you got fooled by dan rather and cbs.For someone who is so smart and well educated you sure are easy to fool.

2:08 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

They all find God when its convenient. Even these left wing bloggers. Notice how this guy insults christians . They have total disregard for God and dont even believe in Him. until , ofcourse , it becomes convenient for them to invoke His name.
No matter how you feel about God this Marine should not be allowed to hide behind his faith .He went in know exactly what he was being trined for , he knew the risks .Why did he do it? most likely for the job training and the perks.Then when the actual purpose of his training came into need he runs like the coward and the fraud that he is.Who does he run to ? Other cowards and frauds. Why should we be surprised.
why does this jerk need to go to jail? Well, if we ran a military and let people come in and play army while getting trained and then allow them to run off when fighting starts we wouldnt be prepared to fight any war. Why would i even have to write this? It is amazing that people are so stupid they cant see this for themselves. Imagine if the far left actually were incharge of our military? on second thought id rather not thinkig about it

2:22 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The Marine mentioned in the article above has done something that you all seem to think is wrong, therefore, you want to punish him and everyone like him. That's very "Christian" of you.

3:30 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I am puzzled by the anonymous poster above. I am not a christian . but are you suggesting that it is not christian to feel that people who commit crimes and break laws should not be punished?. I am sure most thinking christians feel that society must have laws that apply to everyone.
yes, the marine did somthing horrible. I stole from the government.He took a pay check every week for training incase of war. Then he ran out on that contract thus cheating those who paid his salary.

11:15 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
The Marine mentioned in the article above has done something that you all seem to think is wrong, therefore, you want to punish him and everyone like him. That's very "Christian" of you.

3:30 PM
hey anonymous. What is the point of that post? If you are a christian you should allow people to do whatever they want? break any law they dont like? or do you think its christian to sign a contract and break it?Is that what is means to be a christian to you .
Help us all out and explain your foolish comment'

12:15 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

can you imagine if these fools had to run a business .Suppose you agreeed to take on an eployee and train him for 6 months. He would be of no real useto you for some time after that .Then when he can actually be of use he tells you he has a change of heart and wants to walk away .forget all the time and money you put in to him . he just doesnt feel like doing that anymore. seeya.
obviously it wouldnt work.the would be a formula for failure.maybe to these people failure is ok.maybe failure is what they want for this matter what , clearly they have no clue how to actualy get the job done.thats why in the last election the american people told them all

2:20 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

All of these posts about the marine are well beside the point which the above article is trying to make. But let me ask you all this: whom did Christ "punish", and what method did he use?

4:56 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

read te post again. the marine was clearly brought up to try to make the point of the post. by trashing that point you undermind the foolishness of the post itself.also , who cares about what jesus did. neither you nor the person originaly posting does. this is part of the silly attempts at framing the left is trying to do .they will not help you in the least.we read on the left wing blogs including those which try to tell you how to talk to consevatives , republicans etc. the theorys are wrong, they wont help you win any argument simply by ignoring valid points of your foes by ignoring them and then switching the topics. infact, your a fool for listenning to your gurus.They gave you wrong information in the past and continue to do so .listen not to the idiots who helped form the strategies which failed but rather to those who formed the strategies that won. we love seeing how foolish and simple you are. your in trouble. your way of life is dead . your hopes and dreams for a socialist america are going with them.its only going to get worse for you . try canada. it will suit you better

2:13 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I agree with most of what you say anonymous.however, i would leave out the rudness and sniping. Let the person who wrote the original post have his crude insults .The best way to respond is with polite disagreement and cheer. the point of the post was to insult christians here in america. Let them have that hatred , and let it eat them up inside. Christianity , american style .That somthing for which we can take pride.Let the left have thier anger. We can call it Hatred, Stalin style.

3:28 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Seems very dishonest for a left wing blogger to bring up this marine.For one they want total seperation of church and state. thus this marines excuse should not hold water to them.Also ,these left wingers hate religeon and anyone who proclaims it.Witness the attacks on Mel Gibson just for making a version of a famous story.Thus, they would normaly attack this marine.No, it seems the left will use anything to attack an enemy . The hate they have is just so powerful. Fortunatley that blind hate is what will sink them over and over again.

3:42 PM  

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